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	<title>Comments on: Why Sphinn Needs a Dumbass Button</title>
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		<title>By: BillinDetroit</title>
		<link>http://www.3dogmedia.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1490</link>
		<dc:creator>BillinDetroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 03:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gregboser.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1490</guid>
		<description>I, personally, give a &#039;Thumbs Up&#039; probably 8-9 times for every &quot;Thumbs Down&quot; I give via Stumble!. Most of the pages it has referred me to are pretty well constructed with relevant and reasonably correct information. (I also look at &#039;conspiracy theory&#039; sites and give them a thumbs up for simply adding plausible / novel information). I&#039;ve only been active there for a few days, but I&#039;ve probably ranked 100 or more pages in that time.

Since I am new to &#039;social networking&#039;, what is the value proposition that differentiates Sphinn from Stumble? I am thinking that Google uses pretty sterile metrics for valuing a URL, but that the social network ranking systems, using &#039;wetware&#039; will actually do a better job of narrowing a selection down to a meaningful flood of sites. It is my hope that my preferences (via the scoring system) will shape the selection of sites I am offered.

I think that matching an up or down score with the IP sending it (and only allowing one of either per IP) should make a -1 plenty valid. Judging from long years in the Usenet trenches, I&#039;d guess that the community is usually pretty good at exposing and shaming those who &#039;cry wolf&#039; too often or two loudly.

Better still would be a system where the same IP could change its mind (perhaps in response to clarification / correction of a matter) but only the most recent vote would be counted. Still, allowing only one vote per IP per direction, if an IP has previously given a -1, then each subsequent vote from the same IP would only change the sign from a - to a + to a -, etc.

Complicated perhaps, but it would allow a &quot;One IP / One Vote&quot; system where the vote could change (up OR down) to reflect changes in the contents of the site or the contents of the reviewers brain (hopefully both are amenable to editing as needed).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, personally, give a &#8216;Thumbs Up&#8217; probably 8-9 times for every &#8220;Thumbs Down&#8221; I give via Stumble!. Most of the pages it has referred me to are pretty well constructed with relevant and reasonably correct information. (I also look at &#8216;conspiracy theory&#8217; sites and give them a thumbs up for simply adding plausible / novel information). I&#8217;ve only been active there for a few days, but I&#8217;ve probably ranked 100 or more pages in that time.</p>
<p>Since I am new to &#8217;social networking&#8217;, what is the value proposition that differentiates Sphinn from Stumble? I am thinking that Google uses pretty sterile metrics for valuing a URL, but that the social network ranking systems, using &#8216;wetware&#8217; will actually do a better job of narrowing a selection down to a meaningful flood of sites. It is my hope that my preferences (via the scoring system) will shape the selection of sites I am offered.</p>
<p>I think that matching an up or down score with the IP sending it (and only allowing one of either per IP) should make a -1 plenty valid. Judging from long years in the Usenet trenches, I&#8217;d guess that the community is usually pretty good at exposing and shaming those who &#8216;cry wolf&#8217; too often or two loudly.</p>
<p>Better still would be a system where the same IP could change its mind (perhaps in response to clarification / correction of a matter) but only the most recent vote would be counted. Still, allowing only one vote per IP per direction, if an IP has previously given a -1, then each subsequent vote from the same IP would only change the sign from a &#8211; to a + to a -, etc.</p>
<p>Complicated perhaps, but it would allow a &#8220;One IP / One Vote&#8221; system where the vote could change (up OR down) to reflect changes in the contents of the site or the contents of the reviewers brain (hopefully both are amenable to editing as needed).</p>
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		<title>By: 51 Favorite StumbleUpon, Sphinn, Twitter &#38; Facebook Posts of 2007 &#124; Social Desire</title>
		<link>http://www.3dogmedia.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1487</link>
		<dc:creator>51 Favorite StumbleUpon, Sphinn, Twitter &#38; Facebook Posts of 2007 &#124; Social Desire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gregboser.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1487</guid>
		<description>[...] Why Sphinn Needs a Dumbass Button - Digg has a &quot;bury it&quot; button&#8230;. Greg Boser suggests a &quot;Dumbass Button&quot; for Sphinn. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why Sphinn Needs a Dumbass Button &#8211; Digg has a &quot;bury it&quot; button&#8230;. Greg Boser suggests a &quot;Dumbass Button&quot; for Sphinn. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Top 10 Blog Posts about Sphinn in 2007</title>
		<link>http://www.3dogmedia.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1491</link>
		<dc:creator>Top 10 Blog Posts about Sphinn in 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gregboser.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1491</guid>
		<description>[...] Why Sphinn Needs a Dumbass Button We still haven&#8217;t gotten a &#8220;dumbass button&#8221; on Sphinn, but we at least have some moderators who do a pretty good job at taking care of Sphinn spam.  Now normally, I’m not a big fan of Digg’s &#8220;bury it&#8221; function, but in this case, I think it’s warranted. If we can’t get Danny to give us the ability to make a stupid post go away, then at least give us a big red Dumbass button that will flag the post as one not worth clicking on. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why Sphinn Needs a Dumbass Button We still haven&#8217;t gotten a &#8220;dumbass button&#8221; on Sphinn, but we at least have some moderators who do a pretty good job at taking care of Sphinn spam.  Now normally, I’m not a big fan of Digg’s &#8220;bury it&#8221; function, but in this case, I think it’s warranted. If we can’t get Danny to give us the ability to make a stupid post go away, then at least give us a big red Dumbass button that will flag the post as one not worth clicking on. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Enduring Power of Good Manners &#187; aimClear Search Marketing Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.3dogmedia.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1489</link>
		<dc:creator>The Enduring Power of Good Manners &#187; aimClear Search Marketing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gregboser.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1489</guid>
		<description>[...] Online communities mirror the physical world as we share, debate, and interact to the greater good of the collective. It’s all about getting along, making friends, and building networks through respectful and appropriate interactions. We are judged by our behavior and kicked off the island if we deserve a press of the dumb-ass button. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Online communities mirror the physical world as we share, debate, and interact to the greater good of the collective. It’s all about getting along, making friends, and building networks through respectful and appropriate interactions. We are judged by our behavior and kicked off the island if we deserve a press of the dumb-ass button. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Tribute to Sphinn &#8224; Hamlet Batista dot Com</title>
		<link>http://www.3dogmedia.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1488</link>
		<dc:creator>A Tribute to Sphinn &#8224; Hamlet Batista dot Com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gregboser.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1488</guid>
		<description>[...] Boser. I recently found his blog via a post asking Danny to include a Dumbass button! I have to say it is hard not to follow a link with such a title.Check him out (and subscribe to his [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Boser. I recently found his blog via a post asking Danny to include a Dumbass button! I have to say it is hard not to follow a link with such a title.Check him out (and subscribe to his [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WBW (Worldwide Blog Wrestling) Presents&#8230; &#187; A Psycho By Any Other Name: The Rose DesRochers Experience</title>
		<link>http://www.3dogmedia.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1486</link>
		<dc:creator>WBW (Worldwide Blog Wrestling) Presents&#8230; &#187; A Psycho By Any Other Name: The Rose DesRochers Experience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 04:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gregboser.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1486</guid>
		<description>[...] Rose and her husband are trying to prove their point using logic that is fallacious. They are trying to convince people that Google has said that if a regular HTML link has an onclick event attached to it then it will not pass PageRank. They link to a statement Matt Cutts made to back up this claim. The statement they link to doesn&#8217;t say this. To get rude in a conversation is one thing&#8230; to get emotional, upset, and rude in a discussion based on technical functionality when you don&#8217;t even understand what is being discussed, well&#8230; that&#8217;s the kind of thing that prompts people to suggest that Sphinn needs a Dumbass button. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rose and her husband are trying to prove their point using logic that is fallacious. They are trying to convince people that Google has said that if a regular HTML link has an onclick event attached to it then it will not pass PageRank. They link to a statement Matt Cutts made to back up this claim. The statement they link to doesn&#8217;t say this. To get rude in a conversation is one thing&#8230; to get emotional, upset, and rude in a discussion based on technical functionality when you don&#8217;t even understand what is being discussed, well&#8230; that&#8217;s the kind of thing that prompts people to suggest that Sphinn needs a Dumbass button. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Pitts</title>
		<link>http://www.3dogmedia.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1485</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Pitts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gregboser.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1485</guid>
		<description>Greg,
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I usually just keep looking when any discussion starts with or relies heavily on PageRank. The whole idea of PR is a &quot;mine is bigger than yours&quot; debate. Who cares?

You put it bluntly, but that doesn&#039;t mean it shouldn&#039;t have been said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,<br />
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I usually just keep looking when any discussion starts with or relies heavily on PageRank. The whole idea of PR is a &#8220;mine is bigger than yours&#8221; debate. Who cares?</p>
<p>You put it bluntly, but that doesn&#8217;t mean it shouldn&#8217;t have been said!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.3dogmedia.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1474</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gregboser.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1474</guid>
		<description>A Rose by any other name would still be a dumbass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Rose by any other name would still be a dumbass.</p>
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		<title>By: How to fuck up click tracking with the JavaScript onclick trigger</title>
		<link>http://www.3dogmedia.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1475</link>
		<dc:creator>How to fuck up click tracking with the JavaScript onclick trigger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gregboser.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1475</guid>
		<description>[...] There&#8217;s a somewhat heated debate over at Sphinn and many other places as well where folks call each other guppy and dumbass try to figure out whether a particular directory&#8217;s click tracking sinks PageRank distribution or not. Besides interesting replies from Matt Cutts, an essential result of this debate is that Sphinn will implement a dumbass button. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There&#8217;s a somewhat heated debate over at Sphinn and many other places as well where folks call each other guppy and dumbass try to figure out whether a particular directory&#8217;s click tracking sinks PageRank distribution or not. Besides interesting replies from Matt Cutts, an essential result of this debate is that Sphinn will implement a dumbass button. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.3dogmedia.com/why-sphinn-needs-a-dumbass-button/#comment-1476</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes</p>
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